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01Dr Feelgood2024041620240624 (R4)In this first episode, she looks at the splits and re-incarnations of 1970s Canvey Island pub rock band Dr Feelgood, charting how, through creative differences, deaths, and rigours of touring#, the current line-up of the band has none of the original members. Yet they are still Dr Feelgood, they still tour and have a huge international fanbase. Kitty speaks with original drummer ‘The Big Figure', manager Chris Fenwick and current band members, Gordon Russell, Phil Mitchell, Kevin Morris and Robert Kane.

She hears from Jodi Milstein an LA based psychotherapist who runs Rockstar Therapy – akin to marriage guidance for bands - as well as from Tamsin Embleton, editor of band touring bible Touring And Mental Health. And Ryan Dusick, original drummer with the American Band Maroon 5, talks about how touring took its toll on his mental health.

Presented by Kitty Perrin

Produced by Julian Mayers and Chris Wilson

A Yada-Yada Audio production for BBC Radio 4

Singer-songwriter Kitty Perrin analyses the splits and resurrections of band Dr Feelgood.

Singer-songwriter Kitty Perrin attempts to analyse the reasons behind why bands split.

Singer-songwriter Kitty Perrin analyses the career of Dr Feelgood. With the help of music professionals, she looks at the reasons why some bands split while others continue.

02Liberty X2024042320240701 (R4)Singer Songwriter and BBC Introducing presenter Kitty Perrin charts the stories of band break ups, looking at what really happened. Using new interviews with band members themselves - as well as music professionals, academics, and writers - she analyses the reasons behind why bands split.

Some band splits are violent, ugly affairs. They go out with a bang or at least a goodbye tour. Others simply walk away quietly from the limelight.

In this episode, Kitty takes us back to the early 2000s, the reality TV show Popstars and the five losing singers. She talks to the original female members, Michelle Heaton, Kelli Young and Jessica Taylor about how their failure to win the TV show and being labelled ‘Flopstars' brought the five members together as an actual non-TV band, Liberty X. And how, despite that initial label from the press, they became more successful than the eventual Popstars winners, Hear'Say.

In the six years together, the band was rarely out of the tabloids. They released three albums, achieved eight UK Top 10 hits, and played stadiums all over the world but then, one day, they were gone. Kitty looks at what happened and why - uncovering a theme of imposter syndrome while the band were at their height, and a loss of identity when they split.

She also hears from Ryan Dusick, original drummer of American rock-pop band Maroon 5, about his own issues of imposter syndrome and how that led to him being sacked, from Dr George Musgrave, rapper (under the name Context) and senior lecturer in cultural sociology at Goldsmiths University, specialising in mental health in the music industry.

Presented by Kitty Perrin

Produced by Julian Mayers and Ellie Dobing

Original Music by Gordon Russell

A Yada-Yada Audio production for BBC Radio 4

Singer Songwriter Kitty Perrin talks to Liberty X about their split and reformation.

Singer-songwriter Kitty Perrin attempts to analyse the reasons behind why bands split.

Singer Songwriter Kitty Perrin talks to band Liberty X about their split and reformation. And she looks at the issues of imposter syndrome and identity as a musician.

Singer-songwriter Kitty Perrin talks to Liberty X about their split and reformation.

Singer-songwriter Kitty Perrin talks to band Liberty X about their split and reformation. And she looks at the issues of imposter syndrome and identity as a musician.

03The Fall2024043020240708 (R4)In episode 3 Kitty explores the love affair at the heart of one of the most turbulent bands in music history. She talks to Brix Smith about her time in cult Mancunian post-punk band The Fall, how she fell in love with and married the bands originator Mark E Smith, and how the break up of that marriage and Mark's documented substance misuse led to her leaving the band - twice.

In the early 80s, teenager Brix Smith lived in LA, made music and obsessed over every sound coming out of the British music scene. Two weeks after Brix Smith met The Fall she went to see them play. Six weeks later she moved across the world, joined the band, and was in a relationship with the man who was a figure on an album sleeve eight weeks before. Her addition as songwriter and guitarist was a major turning point for the band.

Kitty gets insight into what it's like to be in a band with a romantic partner, and how that might affect the people around you so she speaks to Simon Raymonde, former bassist in 80s pioneering band Cocteau Twins, the only member in the band with couple Liz and Robin.

She hears from Rowetta from Happy Mondays who talks about how substance abuse led to their split.

We also hear from Rock-star psychotherapist Jodi Millstein, Tamsin Embleton, editor of 'Touring and Mental Health' and Ryan Dusick, original drummer in American Pop-Rock band Maroon 5.

A Yada-Yada Audio Production

Presenter - Kitty Perrin

Producer - Julian Mayers

Original Music by Gordon Russell

Singer Songwriter Kitty Perrin talks to Brix Smith about her time in The Fall.

Singer-songwriter Kitty Perrin attempts to analyse the reasons behind why bands split.

Singer Songwriter Kitty Perrin talks to Brix Smith about her time in The Fall. She looks at issues around romantic relationships within bands as well as substance abuse.

03The Fall2024043020240708 (R4)Singer Songwriter and BBC Introducing presenter Kitty Perrin charts the stories of band splits. What really happened in the breakups of some of history's best loved bands? Using new interviews with band members, music professionals, academics, and writers she analyses the reasons they split.

In episode 3 Kitty explores the love affair at the heart of one of the most turbulent bands in music history. She talks to Brix Smith about her time in cult Mancunian post-punk band The Fall, how she fell in love with and married the bands originator Mark E Smith, and how the break up of that marriage and Mark's documented substance misuse led to her leaving the band - twice.

In the early 80s, teenager Brix Smith lived in LA, made music and obsessed over every sound coming out of the British music scene. Two weeks after Brix Smith met The Fall she went to see them play. Six weeks later she moved across the world, joined the band, and was in a relationship with the man who was a figure on an album sleeve eight weeks before. Her addition as songwriter and guitarist was a major turning point for the band.

Kitty gets insight into what it's like to be in a band with a romantic partner, and how that might affect the people around you so she speaks to Simon Raymonde, former bassist in 80s pioneering band Cocteau Twins, the only member in the band with couple Liz and Robin.

She hears from Rowetta from Happy Mondays who talks about how substance abuse led to their split.

We also hear from Rock-star psychotherapist Jodi Millstein, Tamsin Embleton, editor of 'Touring and Mental Health' and Ryan Dusick, original drummer in American Pop-Rock band Maroon 5.

A Yada-Yada Audio Production

Producer - Julian Mayers

Original Music by Gordon Russell

Singer Songwriter Kitty Perrin talks to Brix Smith about her time in The Fall.

Singer-songwriter Kitty Perrin attempts to analyse the reasons behind why bands split.

Singer Songwriter Kitty Perrin talks to Brix Smith about her time in The Fall. She looks at issues around romantic relationships within bands as well as substance abuse.